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Post by BillLaimbeer on Mar 4, 2018 16:10:55 GMT -8
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Post by BillLaimbeer on Mar 4, 2018 16:13:22 GMT -8
I'd say MSU ends up as a #2 seed. UM will probably be a #4 seed.
I'll have to look at the bracket before I make my predictions.
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Post by Darth on Mar 4, 2018 18:17:37 GMT -8
Nice thread. I knew after all these years you would finally make yourself useful. M may only be a 4, but I don’t think has done anything new to impress the committee.
S will not repeat middle Tenn. and wins round one by a blowout. They win game 2 by a handful of points.If they get a lucky marchup or have a really good game they will advance. But elite 8 is the maximum for these guys. No floor leadership. Ward sucks ever since they double teamed him. Langford is ice cold. Jackson inconsistent due to foul trouble. Winston doing well and Bridges carries them a maximum of one game. It’s good they won the B1G regular season.
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Post by BillLaimbeer on Mar 4, 2018 19:22:07 GMT -8
An interesting angle right now is looking at which teams end up in the Detroit Regional.
The #2 seed of the Midwest will play in that part of the bracket. MSU would seem to have a good chance to play in Detroit.
The seeds playing in Detroit would be #1, #2, #7, #8, #9, #10, #15, and #16.
I don't see how UM could end up there.
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Post by Darth on Mar 4, 2018 21:08:22 GMT -8
Yeah. Even IF we were #2 there’s a chance we won’t see Detroit. Why would the committee move S up now? I don’t think S, given their mindset, deep down, even have the confidence to truly believe they realistically have a shot. Plus I don’t see the powers allowing S the luxury of Detroit. We are they red headed step children. Oh, the players believe they have the best talent but I think while they have “confidence” in their teammates, if the OSU loss showed them they cannot beat the best teams with any regularity and spun them out of control for weeks, I don’t see what’s changed?
Do YOU think they have a good chance to suddenly find themselves. Not without a leader to demand more from others. I think they are all hoping Bridges becomes that guy. He demanded more of himself but not the leader type in that sense is he?
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Post by thee on Mar 5, 2018 11:01:39 GMT -8
some think MS will get the screws in the tourney. Due to the scandals.
NCAA will want to minimize MS bs
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Post by Darth on Mar 5, 2018 12:59:06 GMT -8
some think MS will get the screws in the tourney. Due to the scandals. NCAA will want to minimize MS bs I think so too but they made it easier to screw them. As long as they hold the 3rd seed I feel they made their own bed. If they drop to 4 then something is very fishy. The NCAA can’t get away with 4. MAYBE without scandal they get #2 but we cannot say so with confidence. 29-4 even beating mostly mediocre teams deserves a 3. Other than missing Detroit if they are going to win they can do it from 3 as easily as 2. But don’t hold your breath. I see the problem as this. They need a floor leader but nobody will step up because they wouldn’t dare confront Jackson or Bridges. So the freshie and soph would be the only ones and they won’t do it. So it looks bleak to me. Talent alone gets them through 16. After that I’m not encouraged. Bridges may as well have gone pro but he is still raw. Him going animal with his play and mouth are the only hope to change things. |
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Post by BillLaimbeer on Mar 5, 2018 13:35:16 GMT -8
An interesting angle right now is looking at which teams end up in the Detroit Regional. The #2 seed of the Midwest will play in that part of the bracket. MSU would seem to have a good chance to play in Detroit. The seeds playing in Detroit would be #1, #2, #7, #8, #9, #10, #15, and #16. I don't see how UM could end up there. ESPN had an error on their Bracketology web site. I updated my post. It (Joe Lunardi) currently has Purdue as the #2 seed playing in Detroit (Midwest). It puts MSU as the #3 seed in Nashville (West). It has UM up to a #3 seed in Wichita (East). www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketologyThings could shift slightly this week based on conference tournaments. |
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Post by detteam on Mar 8, 2018 18:11:24 GMT -8
some think MS will get the screws in the tourney. Due to the scandals. NCAA will want to minimize MS bs "scandals". Why did you make it plural? Nassar is only one that has been legally proven. Even that State can't take all the blame for, factoring in Team USA. |
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Post by BillLaimbeer on Mar 9, 2018 7:27:51 GMT -8
MSU has had more than its share of off-court/field issues, but the selection committee has enough to deal with without that sort of bias.
I say MSU gets the #2 seed and ends up in Detroit.
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Post by thee on Mar 9, 2018 9:34:02 GMT -8
some think MS will get the screws in the tourney. Due to the scandals. NCAA will want to minimize MS bs "scandals". Why did you make it plural? Nassar is only one that has been legally proven. Even that State can't take all the blame for, factoring in Team USA. there were some SexAssault allegations |
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Post by Darth on Mar 11, 2018 10:19:38 GMT -8
Well, most people think Michigan State will not be in Detroit so I will go with that. But I think they will be put in what is considered the first or Second toughest bracket. Partially because they are in it although I don’t think they’ll do much. They go to the Sweet 16 nothing more unless they get a good match up. Probably means there is an upset before they play.
I guess Michigan will also be on number three seed.
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Post by Darth on Mar 11, 2018 14:44:17 GMT -8
MSU lucks out with Detroit. Unfortunately, Duke #2 so at best we get through to round of 8. Always lose to Duke.
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Post by Darth on Mar 11, 2018 18:15:12 GMT -8
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Post by Darth on Mar 11, 2018 21:16:00 GMT -8
Bucknell not another Mid Tennessee but similar in some aspects. They’re actually quite good and MSU cannot take them lightly. A Detroit game makes me feel more comfortable with this but no way is it a given.
Vegas has MSU @ -13.5
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Post by BillLaimbeer on Mar 12, 2018 19:08:28 GMT -8
Sometimes what originally looks like a "region of death" doesn't turn out to be so difficult after a couple of early upsets. We will see... |
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Post by Darth on Mar 12, 2018 21:19:10 GMT -8
Sometimes what originally looks like a "region of death" doesn't turn out to be so difficult after a couple of early upsets. We will see... Agreed. When I saw that for the first time I thought about the USA in the “region of death” where they advanced. But yeah I can think of death regions in this tourney where upsets ruled. HOWEVER, Duke is death to MSU. Izzo’s 1-10 record against them is significant. Yeah, eventually we will get them but this team against that Duke team. They are loaded with studs as are we. But we cant beat good teams the last few months, aren’t tough, and Izzo is the Dukes coach bitch. Unless someone knocks off Duke first I think Sparty doesn’t get past the elite 8. 29-4,was great fun and I’m thankful but unless we play extremely well before Duke I am not optimistic. |
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Post by nuraman00 on Apr 7, 2018 13:48:18 GMT -8
Sometimes what originally looks like a "region of death" doesn't turn out to be so difficult after a couple of early upsets. We will see... Which region ended up going differently than you expected? With all teams considered (not just one upset). |
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Post by BillLaimbeer on Apr 7, 2018 17:35:46 GMT -8
Sometimes what originally looks like a "region of death" doesn't turn out to be so difficult after a couple of early upsets. We will see... Which region ended up going differently than you expected? With all teams considered (not just one upset). I had 3 of the 4 correct in the Final Four, so Loyola was the biggest shakeup of the four regions. |
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Post by Darth on Apr 7, 2018 17:43:32 GMT -8
Laimbeer offered me $20 to ask leading questions so he could brag about his bracket. How much were you given to sell your integrity? Like in all sports leagues where he is commissioner he fixed it.
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