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Post by Darth on Nov 5, 2017 5:13:05 GMT -8
I don't have cable and the one station that the Lions and Spartans usually play on doesn't come in. I pay $4 a year and just listen on my phone. Probably be easier to buy a radio. Rankings are fun but meaningless in many ways. Especially since some teams are top 25 before the season giving them much more margin for error. Anyhow, I thought MSU moving back to 16 might be a stretch. HOWEVER, the 4 sites with projections as of now have them at 10, 11, 11, 12. That's a minimum jump of 12 spots. Seems much to high to me but then again if they had been pre ranked high they would probably be higher than that. I'm sure the coaches poll will keep them humble at at least 4 spots behind any others. |
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Post by Darth on Nov 5, 2017 10:17:41 GMT -8
Coaches poll
MSU 16
M 22
The coaches never like MSU. Six spaces divide Michigan and Michigan State? I miss you beat Michigan and Penn State. Michigan lost to Michigan State and Penn State. Whatever. Good thing nobody really cares .
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Post by thee on Nov 5, 2017 18:04:34 GMT -8
great win against PState
clearly all the polls were stupid regards MState
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Post by Darth on Nov 5, 2017 19:22:14 GMT -8
great win against PState clearly all the polls were stupid regards MState I was stupid too. Who knew? I actually believe they have a moderately reasonable CHANCE to knock off an angry OSU team. Will O come out for blood or with their tales between their legs? MSU has a young team. Too young to know fear. The future may be brigh the bext couple years. Too many good teams in the east to make the CFP. Plus this year S had Iowa and M has W. |
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Post by Darth on Nov 7, 2017 22:58:23 GMT -8
It's too bad S plays at O this weekend. O is steamed after Io humiliated them. So I think they will be fired up to win the B1G rather than down about the playoff spot chances lowered. The chances weren't great for MSU winning regardless. Plus with all the highly ranked teams playing this week and the possibility of upsets elsewhere on top I think O and S winner is still alive and well.
Again, I prefer to avoid Bama and miss the playoffs entirely. So one more feel good week for S would be nice. Plus playing them the week before the M game might be good also. O wouldn't look past a high ranked S but might be distracted a little. Well, still, you never know.
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Post by Darth on Nov 8, 2017 6:36:46 GMT -8
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Post by BillLaimbeer on Nov 11, 2017 10:15:54 GMT -8
It's too bad S plays at O this weekend. O is steamed after Io humiliated them. So I think they will be fired up to win the B1G rather than down about the playoff spot chances lowered. The chances weren't great for MSU winning regardless. Plus with all the highly ranked teams playing this week and the possibility of upsets elsewhere on top I think O and S winner is still alive and well. Again, I prefer to avoid Bama and miss the playoffs entirely. So one more feel good week for S would be nice. Plus playing them the week before the M game might be good also. O wouldn't look past a high ranked S but might be distracted a little. Well, still, you never know. Good call. Ohio is mad and Sparty is bad. It's 28-0 Ohio and we are still early in the 1st half. This is downright ugly and we can't seem to stop the momentum. |
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Post by Darth on Nov 11, 2017 13:54:52 GMT -8
Bummer but I don't feel down. Beating P and were great so 7-3 with two very winnable games coming up is awesome. Nobody expected them to have hopes for a big 10 championship at this point of the year. I think they will move on from it and who knows maybe they will take it out on Maryland.though if Dantonio gets a touchdown lead in the first quarter he will run the ball the rest of the game to run out the clock.
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Post by thee on Nov 12, 2017 5:38:04 GMT -8
I wonder if M can score 3 on OS
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Looks like NDame spit the bit too
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Post by Darth on Nov 17, 2017 19:31:35 GMT -8
Everyone think S stomps MA. Newsflash: S stomps Nobody. If S wins they may widen the margin in the 4th. If S plays well and Scott doesn't fumble they should win hands down. Let MA hang around a while and it will be scary.
S. 27
MA 16
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Post by Darth on Nov 17, 2017 19:35:57 GMT -8
I wonder if M can score 3 on OS - Looks like NDame spit the bit too M may score 3 TD on O! |
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Post by thee on Nov 18, 2017 9:42:47 GMT -8
statement like that make me wonder, what gives ?
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CJ said Boston would that Cavs in P/Os this yr, right now that looks true.
But I.T. hasn't played
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Post by BillLaimbeer on Nov 18, 2017 12:18:20 GMT -8
statement like that make me wonder, what gives ? re CJ said Boston would that Cavs in P/Os this yr, right now that looks true. But I.T. hasn't played So.......you think Michigan State football will win today or not? |
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Post by Darth on Nov 18, 2017 20:31:48 GMT -8
Well an ugly win beats a pretty loss. Lewerke needs to wake up. That Holmes fumble prevented a blowout. I think Dantonio went with him, despite Scott's great day out of loyalty. He did well other than that. A good team player so that was unfortunate.
As I predicted it would not be a blowout. MSU is built that way. Rutgers is no gimme although a loss there will hurt. Even if they do win and M loses to O (Likely sans Peters) an 8-4 M that hasn't beaten a team with a winning record will leapfrog a 9-3 S team that beat M.
At least I think so.
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Post by thee on Nov 19, 2017 9:26:53 GMT -8
Well an ugly win beats a pretty Even if they do win and M loses to O (Likely sans Peters) an 8-4 M that hasn't beaten a team with a winning record will leapfrog a 9-3 S team that beat M. At least I think so. way wrong, B1G isn't that biased against State however equal won/loss and M would get better bowl M couldn't score 2 TDs on Wisc straight up weak M team |
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Post by Darth on Nov 19, 2017 16:04:57 GMT -8
Well an ugly win beats a pretty Even if they do win and M loses to O (Likely sans Peters) an 8-4 M that hasn't beaten a team with a winning record will leapfrog a 9-3 S team that beat M. At least I think so. way wrong, B1G isn't that biased against State however equal won/loss and M would get better bowl M couldn't score 2 TDs on Wisc straight up weak M team It's not up to the B1G. The Bowl (in their respective order) gets the best remaining team but has the option to pick another as long as the team has no more than one more loss. So you're the Outback Bowl. You need to sell tickets. Which would you choose? The customers don't care about records. You can pick Michigan with fans all over the country and Jim Harbaugh who screams "attention". It's happened before. IIRC in the "Mike D'antoni " era.Hell, even the media cant even get his name right. My guess is a 9-3 S is trumped by an 8-4 M. It will piss me off and it isn't fair but I understand it's about money. MSU lost it's last Bowl game by 38-0.as long as M plays O and comes within 14 points they go to the Outback. HOWEVER, if W or O don't make the playoffs everyone is bumped down one to the Holiday Bowl (for S or M). The other goes to the friggin' Pinstripe Bowl in frigid New York. May as well play in the Pizza Bowl and play CMU and save on travel expenses. The Pinstripe has more status but who cares at that point? I'm assuming S beats R. Not a given. The Bowls I'm listing aren't a given but this is what the writers think and where the BiG has ties. Let's see what actually happens... |
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Post by thee on Nov 20, 2017 9:52:44 GMT -8
If Motor City Bowl could up its money a little they could get some good programs.
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Post by Darth on Nov 20, 2017 18:00:13 GMT -8
Yeah. But they cannot because they cannot sell out. They cannot sell out because they have mediocre teams. A vicious cycle. But regardless, any good team wants to go to a warm climate with stuff to do like Orlando or beaches. Who in the B1G would want to go to Detroit? Maybe a team that slipped in with 5 wins. Location. Location. Location. I think even Idahos Potato Bowl is ranked the more preferable. MSU will play on their blue turf in 2021. BSU always travels to play big boys. This will be huge for those dumb yokels.
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Post by Darth on Nov 21, 2017 14:35:52 GMT -8
Assuming S>R and a B1G team makes the championship series:
The Outback most likely or Holiday.
The Citrus has been mentioned but seems too lofty.
The Pinstripe is worst case and IMO would suck for the players.
At the beginning of the year only the most optimistic fans had the Spartans winning 8. Many were just hoping S would double last year and become Bowl ELIGIBLE. :-) Beat R and we want a NYD Bowl. Whoulda thunk it?
Here is one question. Why are the Hawaii Bowl and Bahama Bowl not highly desirable?
Also, why is P considered better than S when S beat P. The huge ranking drop from the O slaughter. S was outclassed but surely they could have kept the margin to say... 28 points. Not that it would help. But 6 touchdowns? Seems like with Bama. Totally overmatched but can't help but wonder if they quit? Coming right after that Iowa victory over a raging O was terrible timing.
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Post by BillLaimbeer on Nov 21, 2017 17:21:25 GMT -8
Assuming S>R and a B1G team makes the championship series: The Outback most likely or Holiday. The Citrus has been mentioned but seems too lofty. The Pinstripe is worst case and IMO would suck for the players. At the beginning of the year only the most optimistic fans had the Spartans winning 8. Many were just hoping S would double last year and become Bowl ELIGIBLE. :-) Beat R and we want a NYD Bowl. Whoulda thunk it? Here is one question. Why are the Hawaii Bowl and Bahama Bowl not highly desirable? Also, why is P considered better than S when S beat P. The huge ranking drop from the O slaughter. S was outclassed but surely they could have kept the margin to say... 28 points. Not that it would help. But 6 touchdowns? Seems like with Bama. Totally overmatched but can't help but wonder if they quit? Coming right after that Iowa victory over a raging O was terrible timing. I think Hawaii and Bahama would be desirable for most teams outside say the top 10. Who's to say they are not desirable? It's better than the Idaho Potato Bowl....or many of the other 200 bowl games. |
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